''I was a social drinker, usually having a few (or more) drinks two to three nights in any week, I loved red wine by the fire and cold beers in the sunshine. I couldn't possibly imagine going 'out out' and not drinking. Who could, or would want to do that? I had been drinking pretty much since I was 16 years old''

Sound familiar? That's a line from Kate Gunns book 'The Accidental Soberista'.

Kate joined Dermot and Dave to tell them about her accidental journey.

You can listen to the full chat below: