Novelist Mary Costello joins Matt to discuss her latest book, A Beautiful Loan. The book focuses on the life of Anna Hughes, a teacher in Dublin and the interior and exterior forces that shape her, including her decades long marriage, and it's later break down.

Mary also discusses the role of Carl Jung in her life and in the book, and broader issues around morality and the future of humanity.

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