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The Last Word With Matt Cooper

Why Trump's Presidency Is "A Very Dangerous Thing"

Michael Lewis has written many books covering topics such as Wall Street, Silicon Valley and basebal...
TodayFM
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6:32 PM - 9 Nov 2018



The Last Word With Matt Cooper

Why Trump's Presidency Is "A Very Dangerous Thing"

TodayFM
TodayFM

6:32 PM - 9 Nov 2018

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Michael Lewis has written many books covering topics such as Wall Street, Silicon Valley and baseball.

His new book, The Fifth Risk, is not so much about Donald Trump, but more the effects of his presidency on the United States — and he certainly doesn't think that Trump is making America great again.

Lewis notes that there was a six-month preparation period for the handover from George W. Bush to Barack Obama, but it was a completely different situation from Obama to Trump, as Trump had "fired his entire transition team."

"There are strains to the Trump transition. One is just neglect, ignorance and arrogance, but another is very narrow commercial interests, and pursuing those interests at the public expense."

Lewis feels that Trump's anti-intellectualism and anti-science mindset is widespread in America, given that he managed to command over 60 million votes.

"It's a source of real weakness in the democracy right now that people get to choose their facts and what they pay attention to."

"You can almost say that the more reliant on federal dollars people are, the more likely they voted for Trump."

He doesn't think there is any evidence that Trump is a good businessman, and that the fact he has built a brand is a marketing exercise.

By the end of Trump's term in office, or indeed if he manages to secure a second term, Lewis thinks America will be left in "a very curious condition."

"When you get someone who is such a malicious force at the top, everybody else has to compensate."

As for how the media can best deal with Trump, he says, "The only way to resist in the media is to insist on accuracy, facts and truth."

"He's framed the media as the enemy of the people. It's an incredible and very dangerous thing and it's going to lead to violence."

However, he also thinks America is "a very resilient country" and will eventually bounce back: "I just think it's going to be a bumpy ride."

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