Deirdre Heenan, professor of Social Policy at Ulster University, talks to Matt about the continuing fallout from the conviction of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson for child sex abuse and rape.

Politicians are calling for an investigation by the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland, into what PSNI officers might have known about Donaldson's conduct.

There were also further revelations about Jeffrey Donaldson in a BBC Spotlight programme, including allegations that issues regarding Donaldson had previous been brought to the attention of people in the DUP.

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