"Even now in 2020 we still look around and we don't see those many expressions of male friendships that we do for women."

It was particularly refreshing talking to Andrew O'Hagan talk about the importance of male friendships.

Andrew is the author of Mayflies, a book which moved Alison to tears.

Speaking to Weekend Breakfast with Alison Curtis Andrew opened up about what friendship means to him and how lockdown has highlighted the significance of human contact.

Have a listen to the full interview here:

Weekend Breakfast with Alison Curtis, Saturdays and Sundays from 8am.